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Post by Assman on Jul 16, 2012 20:56:04 GMT
John Cena's victory over Big Show in a Steel Cage Match at Saturday's WWE SuperShow in Tucson, Arizona marks as his 100th of the year. He only needed 108 matches to achieve the milestone (he has lost four matches and four more matches resulted in a draw or no contest).
Other WWE Superstars with outstanding records are Brodus Clay and Ryback. The Funkasaurus has won 78 times and lost only once (to Big Show on the June 25 Raw). Ryback has garnered 52 victories and suffered one loss (to Alex Riley on January 21 at a WWE SuperShow in Fargo, North Dakota).
Daniel Bryan has competed in the most matches thus far in 2012 with 113. His record stands at 35 wins, 74 losses and 4 draws/no contest results.
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Post by cloud on Jul 16, 2012 23:48:20 GMT
this is why i hate cena...
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Post by Mr. McMahon on Jul 17, 2012 4:32:40 GMT
this is why i hate cena... I don't personally hate cena but I completely get what you mean, and to think my boy D-Bry has lost more than twice as many as he has won sounds bizarre to me. Then again he isn't the major face of the company I suppose, they've always protected their top guys the same way cena has been protected this year (and for the last few years too).
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Post by cloud on Jul 17, 2012 5:04:30 GMT
i don't hate him as a person.. i respect the hell out of him... but i don't like him as his character... super cena strikes again
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Post by Draven on Jul 17, 2012 10:32:30 GMT
They should just slap some Superman tights on him
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Post by cloud on Jul 18, 2012 1:26:15 GMT
They should just slap some Superman tights on him one day... i honestly wouldn't be surprised
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Post by ツ on Jul 18, 2012 1:32:38 GMT
John Cena winning a lot isn't the issue. As I noted in another thread, Steve Austin won an absurd amount as well.
The issue, as Cloud noted, is his character - it's horrific. Why the WWE won't turn him heel, have no idea. It's the obvious thing to do. The second issue is that there is no heel that is built to be equal to Cena. Back then, Austin had heel Rock, HHH, Angle, and Undertaker. Hogan had Warrior (face or heel), heel Savage, heel Andre, etc. Who does Cena have? Even Edge and Orton weren't built up legitimately. They've pretty much ran out of guys for Cena.
I have hopes for Daniel Bryan and Dolph Ziggler though. Yes, they lose a lot. But at least their actually portrayed as legitimate in-ring guys who can beat you without cheating. Heck, Daniel kicked out of the GTS last night and made CM Punk tap out at Over the Limit while Ziggler always takes his opponents to the limit. Lets be honest; nowadays, wins and losses don't really matter, haha. Ziggler loses a bunch but they still have no issue building him as a legitimate threat. Plus, he's a freakin' awesome seller. Best in the business, easily.
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Post by cloud on Jul 18, 2012 3:06:50 GMT
John Cena winning a lot isn't the issue. As I noted in another thread, Steve Austin won an absurd amount as well. The issue, as Cloud noted, is his character - it's horrific. Why the WWE won't turn him heel, have no idea. It's the obvious thing to do. The second issue is that there is no heel that is built to be equal to Cena. Back then, Austin had heel Rock, HHH, Angle, and Undertaker. Hogan had Warrior (face or heel), heel Savage, heel Andre, etc. Who does Cena have? Even Edge and Orton weren't built up legitimately. They've pretty much ran out of guys for Cena. I have hopes for Daniel Bryan and Dolph Ziggler though. Yes, they lose a lot. But at least their actually portrayed as legitimate in-ring guys who can beat you without cheating. Heck, Daniel kicked out of the GTS last night and made CM Punk tap out at Over the Limit while Ziggler always takes his opponents to the limit. Lets be honest; nowadays, wins and losses don't really matter, haha. Ziggler loses a bunch but they still have no issue building him as a legitimate threat. Plus, he's a freakin' awesome seller. Best in the business, easily. agreed... if wwe don't play him off as the next supercena, then dolph has a lot of potential imho
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Post by Justin on Jul 19, 2012 19:10:13 GMT
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Post by ツ on Jul 19, 2012 23:16:15 GMT
I don't see the issue with Cena winning a lot. His character is horrific, agreed. But every top face wins a lot. Like I said before, Austin won just as much in his prime. He just had an excellent character so it didn't matter.
Plus, this is a bit misleading since it also includes house shows and faces aren't meant to lose at house shows.
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Post by cloud on Jul 20, 2012 1:37:39 GMT
I don't see the issue with Cena winning a lot. His character is horrific, agreed. But every top face wins a lot. Like I said before, Austin won just as much in his prime. He just had an excellent character so it didn't matter. Plus, this is a bit misleading since it also includes house shows and faces aren't meant to lose at house shows. this is also quite true... but from what i remember austin played his character so well it wasn't like he was superaustin.. he was stone cold, badass... cena can get his ass kicked for 9/10ths of a match, then suddenly burst out 3 big moves and win... and that, combined with his character, is why i resent him so much as a wrestler... love the guy as a person, he does a lot for the company and a lot more outside of it.. but as a 'wrestler', can't stand him
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Post by Assman on Jul 20, 2012 9:34:56 GMT
Is that also from the last year? How come they've completely missed out a few States like Idaho and Wyoming? Are there no large arenas there? *edit* And New Mexico, but I think I know why WWE hasn't gone there.
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Post by Justin on Jul 20, 2012 19:53:18 GMT
Is that also from the last year? How come they've completely missed out a few States like Idaho and Wyoming? Are there no large arenas there? *edit* And New Mexico, but I think I know why WWE hasn't gone there. I believe it's for all 1000 episodes of raw, when you add up the numbers it equal roughly 1000. Honestly I have no idea why they haven't visited those states, maybe those states don't have a large enough venue, I have no idea
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Post by Affy. on Jul 20, 2012 20:48:37 GMT
I just hate Cena's character. He wears the gayest shirts/hats and his promos are pretty boring now too. I don't care if he wins 8024938028474893485703850054 matches aslong as his character isn't as lame as it is now.
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Post by La Castellan on Jul 22, 2012 4:50:36 GMT
this is also quite true... but from what i remember austin played his character so well it wasn't like he was superaustin.. he was stone cold, badass... No, he was superaustin, and a c**t. Cena seems to me to be more of a return to the hogan style of character, the Cenation won't have the same power as Hulkamania but I find it and Cena's PG-13 attitude, humorous and lively promos, and ability to mix it up in matches while, yes, having a five moves of doom to be interesting and endearing. Stone cold was just glass breaks (Stolen from great muta), bobble heads to the ring, flips people off, throws some punches, flying redneck crotch lou thesz press, one back suplex, one botched diamond cutter, bobblehead around, flip more people off, done. He was so rehashed you could find him in a high school cafeteria taco. I know I stand alone on this but I think Austin is overrated as all hell, whereas Cena feels more like he's either phoning it in or being the biggest heel in the business, playing a face to make the crowd boo him like the ultimate metaheel. He hears your complaints and your tears make him stronger. He doesn't rise above hate, he thrives on it. on topic though: Shocked Ryback lost to A-Ry, didn't A-Ry fall into the abyss known as Superstars, never to rise again until future endeavored?
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